Bonus Episode: Dr. Mistry on ED Treatments to Avoid & Why One Size Definitely Does Not Fit All Men

In this segment, Dr. Mistry and Donna Lee answer a listener's question about erectile dysfunction following his radical prostatectomy. He has tried shock wave therapy, the vacuum erection device, and both prescription and OTC medications, but hasn’t had any success. Dr. Mistry discusses the ins and outs of ED causes, diagnosis, and treatment. While gas stations, pop-up clinics, and online retailers are quick to sell treatments to any patient who walks through the door, Dr. Mistry emphasizes that there is no one-size-fits-all cure for ED. Urologists can provide more thorough diagnostic testing and can recommend treatments based on each patient’s unique needs and lifestyle. He also reminds listeners never to buy sushi from gas stations, either. If you or someone you love would like to schedule an ED evaluation, please visit us online or call 512-238-0762 today! 

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Dr. Mistry is a board-certified urologist and has been treating patients in the Austin and Greater Williamson County area since he started his private practice in 2007.

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:00

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Speaker 2 0:07

Welcome to the Armor Men's Health Show with Dr. Mystery and Donna Lee.

Speaker 3 0:15

Hello and welcome to the Armor Men's Health Show. This is Dr. Mystery , your host joined always with my wonderful, beautiful, and talented co-host Donnelley . What?

Speaker 4 0:25

I love that. Can we start over <laugh> and you say that all over again. Thank you.

Speaker 3 0:28

I'm a board certified urologist, and this is a men's health show. The show is brought to you by NAU Urology specialist, and that is the company that I started in 2007. We have six urologists. We have one , uh, interventional radiologist. We have seven or six advanced practice

Speaker 4 0:44

Providers. Six. We're gonna have a seven

Speaker 3 0:46

Physical therapist. Yeah . Health coach, sleep medicine, sex

Speaker 4 0:49

Therapist,

Speaker 3 0:49

And a strong commitment to taking care of the whole you from the nipples to the needs. I

Speaker 4 0:54

Like your consistency on these messages. That is correct. And I like it when you get to that part. We have a strong commitment to keeping you strong, strong and committed.

Speaker 3 1:02

Donna, if people want to become our patient or if they want to ask us questions on the show, how do they do that?

Speaker 4 1:07

You call us as quickly as you can at 5 1 2 2 3 8 0 7 6 2. Uh , we are the king of second opinions too, if you need a second opinion out there. And we are in Round Rock, north Austin. South Austin, dripping Springs. And did I miss something?

Speaker 3 1:22

I think that's enough. That's

Speaker 4 1:23

Enough. Do we , should we add a fifth? We don't. Not yet. No. Okay. I'm tired . Our website is armor mens health.com. And guess what? We have a fan. Yeah. We

Speaker 3 1:30

Do.

Speaker 4 1:30

An unlikely fan. Yes. He is a priest. Yes. And he listens to our show.

Speaker 3 1:35

Well, I I think that this is the place you get great information and he knows he heard it from the big guy

Speaker 4 1:41

He did for himself. Does that mean we're not going to be

Speaker 3 1:44

No, we are

Speaker 4 1:45

Doomed to hell .

Speaker 3 1:46

It's okay . He's , he's like checking out the competition <laugh> .

Speaker 4 1:50

But we have a priest on our side, right? Yes . He , he said to our doctor who was meeting him, he said, the Armor Men's Health Show. I love Dr. Mystery and Donnel Lee without being prompted.

Speaker 3 2:00

Yes. That was nice. Yeah. He knows the name. That's so

Speaker 4 2:02

Sweet. So there

Speaker 3 2:03

You go. And we love our listeners. We love your questions, and that's what keep us going. Donna, do we have any questions to go today? We do.

Speaker 4 2:09

We have a few , uh, they look like short questions, but I bet they're very detailed because there's always more than what meets the eye. Right. Dr . Mystery , after having my prostate removed, I've tried pills, wave therapy about 20 plus times shots and a vacuum pump with no luck other than having an operation to insert a rod into my penis. What other options do I have? Well,

Speaker 3 2:33

I'm afraid for this guy. The options are limited. Oh . But I'd love to talk about kind of what, what removing the prostate does, why people develop erectile dysfunction as a result. Okay . Kind of how do we feel as doctors causing this problem? Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . 'cause , you know, we cause this problem in a way. Mm . So, you know, when you're diagnosed with prostate cancer, you're given a variety of different options and people make decisions about what they want to do for, for a variety of different reasons. Right? So one of the reasons that they don't pick surgery is because of a concern about erectile dysfunction. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . But the other therapeutic choices, including radiation and hormone therapy, also leads to erectile dysfunction in a significant number of patients. Mm . It's really the prostate cancers full . Okay . I mean, it, it caused the problem and the need for this choice in the first place. Okay. And that's a genetic predisposition that has to do with lifestyle. There are things that you should be doing in your twenties and thirties to avoid, you know, the , or, or to lower your risk of having prostate cancer. You gotta eat right. Minimize fats, you gotta stay thin and you have to use that prostate, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 3:38

Oh , don't, don't say that in my household. You

Speaker 3 3:40

Have , you have to exercise the , I think you're , I I , I think I , I told you, I think you're an accessory to murder if he ever dies

Speaker 4 3:45

From prostate cancer. I know . Don't say that out loud because Michael might hear this one episode and then blame me for something. But

Speaker 3 3:49

I mean, he has that, he's, he has control over that himself. I mean , that's true. The internet has more than enough options

Speaker 4 3:54

For him . Well, not PornHub anymore in Texas, apparently. Oh, really? Yeah. I heard it got banneded .

Speaker 3 3:59

I I , I I don't watch it. So

Speaker 4 4:01

Whatever

Speaker 3 4:01

<laugh> <laugh> , I don't partake so innocent. So , but if you have

Speaker 4 4:05

Have , wait, wait , wait. What causes, like if I, I don't have a , let's say I'm a dude. I don't have history of prostate cancer in my family. I'm 55 years old. I've been diagnosed, I have a high PSA. Is there something particular that I should have gone back in life and done differently?

Speaker 3 4:19

Those same things. You know, ultimately

Speaker 4 4:20

Exactly what you said. There's cancer . It's not something that just causes prostate

Speaker 3 4:23

Cancer. And I'm not saying that you're gonna for sure. Be able to avoid it. Like, yeah . Sm not avoiding smoking oftentimes will help you avoid bladder cancer. Mm-Hmm . But your chances of developing these diseases, all cancers are reduced with a low inflammation diet. That's why we have Holly Spears, our health coach on staff teaching you how to minimize in inflammatory foods in your diet. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> , you want to keep your weight low and you want to exercise your prostate. So those are the three messages that I would give anyone trying to aggressively avoid a prostate cancer or really any cancer diagnosis. Okay. So if you have surgery, the nerves, so the, the penis has blood vessels that have to open up to allow blood to go into the penis to get an erection. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> , the nerves that connect your brain's signal to your penis, unfortunately are attached to and wrap right next to the prostate gland . Oh. So these nerves, the neurovascular bundle we call it Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> is adherent just like an apple skin is inherent to the apple fruit. Okay. And so we have to peel off this apple skin in order to save those nerves. Hmm . But you can tell that if you, if I gave you a knife and you had to peel the skin off an apple Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> , you might get a little apple, or you might take a little nerve , or you might take a little apple. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . And when you have cancer, especially in aggressive cancer, you don't wanna take any apple. You wanna make sure that the entire fruit is taken outta the body. Mm-Hmm . <affirmative> , because that has cancer in it. Oh , my . Did that analogy like that

Speaker 4 5:55

Was really good.

Speaker 3 5:55

And so I

Speaker 4 5:56

Appreciated that

Speaker 3 5:57

The surgeon's capability and the number of cases the surgeon has done is one factor. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . Your anatomy's. Another factor. If your skin is particularly sticky to the fruit, then it's hard to take it off. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . And it also has to do with how bad your cancer is. The worst your cancer is, you know, the harder it is to, you know, take the nerve tissue or leave it behind. And so with all this in , in mind, picking what you do in terms of your treatment can lead to the problem of developing erectile dysfunction. Okay. So now, now what do you do? You had your prostate removed, your erections were really important to you, you know, maybe the surgeon assured you that he was gonna , you know, save him and it didn't happen. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . And that's how that , that's how that , that's how it rolls sometimes. Right? So the first thing that we do is the vacuum erection device. And this listener used it. He says, Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> and didn't like it. And usually you don't like it because the ring that comes with it, the rubber band. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> , if it's too tight, it , that feels uncomfortable. And if it's too loose, then it doesn't work. And it works by taking blood into the , uh, penis and keeping it there using a ring,

Speaker 4 7:07

Like a cons . So user error, possibly.

Speaker 3 7:09

It's not just user error, it's, it has to do with you. It , there are a thousand rings out there. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> , you have to experiment. You have to be willing to experiment and use a device that's uncomfortable on its surface to use.

Speaker 4 7:22

Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> and awkward in the beginning, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 7:24

Yes. But it's awesome. You can travel with it. It ,

Speaker 4 7:28

And you can name it Sally. It

Speaker 3 7:29

Cause it causes very few side effects.

Speaker 4 7:31

Okay. You could put teeny tiny little boobs

Speaker 3 7:33

On it. You can do a lot of things with it. You're not having sex with the vacuum device, Donna. Oh , you don't know that you , that's, that's a fleshlight, that's a completely

Speaker 4 7:40

Different product. Oh , I'm sorry . I get confused. <laugh>.

Speaker 3 7:41

So, so then you have pills and shockwave therapy, but if you didn't have any erection, nothing you penis is not getting hard. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . Then whoever sold this lister 20 , uh, wave therapies.

Speaker 4 7:55

20. Yeah.

Speaker 3 7:56

What, you know, really did a disservice to I and I, I hate these pop-up wave clinics. Right. Because if you're not getting any erections, it's not gonna work. Yeah.

Speaker 4 8:04

In the beginning,

Speaker 3 8:05

It's the wrong nerves. They Mm-Hmm . <affirmative> , it hit the nerves upstream of the penis, not the ones in the penis.

Speaker 4 8:10

So, wait, what you're saying though is a patient, if you are not getting an erection whatsoever at all , at all, don't start with,

Speaker 3 8:17

It's not shockly . It's , it's not , it's not gonna work. Right. We would never sell a patient that here in this clinic. Right. And that, that is integrity. You , it doesn't make any sense. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> Then I think , uh, the listener said that he tried shots already, correct? Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . And the shots are what we call trimix shots. These are shots that go into the penis and then give you an erection.

Speaker 4 8:35

I thought those worked like almost all the time.

Speaker 3 8:37

They do work. So if they don't work, oh, there's a couple of reasons. Number one is if it took too much medicine Oh , then it could stay hard too long. Right . It's frightening. You need to go to the emergency room and I gotta do all this weird stuff to your penis. It's a very bad day for everybody.

Speaker 4 8:51

Okay . Sounds like a Friday in my house. Yes . But ,

Speaker 3 8:54

Okay . And then he wishes <laugh> . And then there are people in who they don't get enough of the medicine. Okay . And we have 20 different formulations of the medicine. So you just need to experiment. So the vacuum device and the trimix injections require patience and experimentation to get it right. Okay. Because there is nothing else left. Mm . Except for the inflatable penile prosthesis, which so eloquently was described as surgery to have rods put in my penis <laugh> . And , but , but that's, that's it. It's surgery. Yeah . That puts inflatable prosthetics, silicone based , um, uh, you know, rods in your penis Right. That you can pump up. It's internal. So nothing shows it's often , uh, paid by many different types of insurance, although not guaranteed, but, but often it's discreet. It's good for spontaneity, the erection and the orgasm feel good. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> , the surgery takes an hour and six weeks later you're ready to go and you've got nothing to lose. Mm-Hmm.

Speaker 4 9:55

<affirmative> . That's right.

Speaker 3 9:57

And in the right hands it's gonna go very well. And that's why satisfaction rates are over 90%. So, wow . I would highly encourage this listener and all the men out there that are afraid of this option. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> to recognize that either you have to be patient and experiment, but so many patients, even weekly come to me thinking that I'm somehow denying them this magic erection thing. <laugh> , you know, I'm not okay. If I had it, I would give it to you.

Speaker 4 10:21

I promise you love to give guys erections. I

Speaker 3 10:24

Love it. Mm-Hmm . <affirmative> . Donna, how do people become patients of ours?

Speaker 4 10:27

You call us right away. If you'd like to learn how to make your penis big as beep (512) 238-0762. Our phone number, again, (512) 238-0762 and our website, armor men's health.com. Listen to our podcast wherever you pod.

Speaker 3 10:43

Hello and welcome back to the Arm Men's Health Show. I'm Dr . Mr , your host here with my indispensable irreplaceable co-host, Donnelly <laugh>.

Speaker 4 10:52

He just said, I'm , I could replace you in a heartbeat,

Speaker 3 10:55

Especially with these AI voices. Now I could get anybody in here's That's true, that's true. And there's enough recording of your voice that I could replace

Speaker 4 11:00

You. Is you think there's an AI that could do this really weird nasally, throaty voice? I'm pretty sure . Don't think so .

Speaker 3 11:05

<laugh> . I'm pretty sure. Uh , this is a men's health show. I'm a board certified urologist. And , uh, this show is brought to you by NAU urology specialist. That is the urology group that I started in 2007. Uh, we love second opinions on this show. Mm-Hmm . <affirmative> . If you are a regular listener, you'll note that I often talk about how biases, understanding skillset of your doctor, even if you think they're all the same Mm . Really affects what kind of care you're gonna get. Mm-Hmm . <affirmative> what kind of options you're gonna get and what kind of overall concern for your holistic care you're gonna get. And so , uh, because of that, we get lots of second opinions because people listen to the show. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . And, and I'd like to think that I developed a reputation of, of giving people a greater set of options. And, and that reputation also extends to my wonderful partners here in our clinic , uh, who we would love to see you. Donna. How do people become patients of ours?

Speaker 4 11:53

You call us at (512) 238-0762 . Our website is armor men's health.com where you could submit those questions that will answer anonymously. And remember, we're in Brown Rock , north Austin, south Austin and Dripping Springs. And I have a quick question about what you just said. Do the other physicians and surgeons in the physicians lounges in the hospitals, do they ever come , come up to you and go, dude, I only do this one procedure and you're messing it up for me? Because people are starting to ask why I don't do more

Speaker 3 12:19

Procedures. No, I do get a lot of rolled eyes from the other urologist though. Do you? Oh yeah. They hate it when, when the patients come in and say, I heard something on Dr . Mysteries radio show, <laugh> . Do you know him? They're like, yeah, I know, I know him . <laugh>.

Speaker 4 12:32

They're like, we are not besties. <laugh> . That's funny. Well , um, so we had a great question with the last segment, and I thought this one was a nice follow up from a different listener. Are you ready, Dr . Mystery ? Let's do it.

Speaker 3 12:43

Dr .

Speaker 4 12:44

Mystery . Are those over the counter pills to help a guy keep his erection safe? I've used them a few times. I just wanna make sure they're safe. Now, I don't know if he means from like the gr the gas station, those over the counter

Speaker 3 12:55

That , that's precisely what he's talking about.

Speaker 4 12:56

Okay. I saw a news story where there's something that's like gas station, heroin. So I'm thinking if you get it at a gas station, it's probably not gonna be super safe. Listen,

Speaker 3 13:05

When it comes to gas station purchases, <laugh> , you know, Starburst is probably okay. Starburst beer . Beer is okay. Beer okay. Gas is okay.

Speaker 4 13:15

Starburst beer, gas.

Speaker 3 13:16

Right? That's, that's it. Do not buy your sushi.

Speaker 4 13:19

No

Speaker 3 13:19

Sushi from a gas , like gas station. Sushi is probably a really bad idea.

Speaker 4 13:23

No sushi, no erection pills.

Speaker 3 13:25

Well, when it comes to erection pills, there you are . <laugh> . So, so this is what I don't understand about people. Oh

Speaker 4 13:32

No.

Speaker 3 13:32

The regular stuff is so cheap. Right. Why would you ever spend five bucks a pill? Is it because you're having sex right now and you're just like, man, I better get two condoms in some like, it's like white rhino or, you know, horny

Speaker 4 13:48

Goat, weed

Speaker 3 13:48

Horny. It's just horny goat weed's. Fine. We're talking about the names. That's a supplement. Yeah . Yeah . We're talking about the stuff that they named there.

Speaker 4 13:54

Horny Bobby .

Speaker 3 13:54

So, so I guess if , if, if, if you could buy a drug over the counter that helped your erection Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> better than what you can get. That's pharmacologic grade. You don't think some far , some drug company would've, would've scooped that up and put it in a pill form and charge you 90 bucks for it. Yeah. Well in fact they did. Yeah . It's called Viagra. So all that these guys are doing is they're getting off market Viagra and Cialis and mixing it with some stuff from , from

Speaker 4 14:21

China.

Speaker 3 14:22

China from China. <laugh> . Actually, it's probably from India, <laugh> . Oh , oh,

Speaker 4 14:26

Okay. Well , I didn't wanna answer that

Speaker 3 14:28

<laugh> . So, so they're getting this, this, this counterfeit Viagra or Cialis and mixing it up and charging you literally 50 times more than you have could pay, you know, you'd have to pay for it in the pharmacy,

Speaker 4 14:41

But these are guys who probably don't have access to a doctor or a urologist for the prescription.

Speaker 3 14:45

And I understand that. And I , and , and these are the choices that you make. Yeah. But, but the truth is, is that there's no quality control. Yeah. You can get the same erection med from the gas station and it'll work one week and not work a month later. Because every time the government finds that these guys are using this counterfeit drug Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> , they make 'em change the formulation. Oh, so maybe, maybe the, the guy they , the day that they were making it your batch. Yeah . You know, the drug police were showing up <laugh> , you know, and so they had to hide, hide the fake Viagra.

Speaker 4 15:17

Oh my. That that sounds so sketchy.

Speaker 3 15:20

The other problem you're gonna get is whatever they're adding into it. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . And so because there's no consistency, there's certainly no like, oversight. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . And I think sometimes we , we kind of , you as Americans, we kind of like the idea of something like we're getting something on the sly, you know,

Speaker 4 15:35

Like rat poison. No.

Speaker 3 15:36

Something, but like, but yeah , I don't know if , if , if you have erectile dysfunction and you wanna make sure that you get an erection that night, you know, we have some things that can help you out a little bit more than those things.

Speaker 4 15:47

But not PornHub,

Speaker 3 15:48

But not PornHub. Not in Texas. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . So, so, although I know of a lot of people that use them, and maybe in a pinch if you needed to use it, but what you're getting is you're , you're getting a little bit of an , of an adulterated lower concentration of medicines that are available classically. So let's talk about those medicines. There's , uh, several on the market. There's Sildenafil, which is generic

Speaker 4 16:13

Viagra,

Speaker 3 16:14

It used to be Viagra. That that's what it is. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . You can get it in so many different forms now. Oh, you can get it in a , my favorite is that you can get it in like a sucker and a gum. Really?

Speaker 4 16:23

Yeah. Wow . It gives a whole new word to sucker.

Speaker 3 16:26

We sell it, we sell it in a sucker form, a gum form. We have it in a , like a, like a lozenge form. Even one that goes between your lip and your , um, your gums. Like a tobacco packet. Really?

Speaker 4 16:38

Yeah. They should make like a gummy form.

Speaker 3 16:40

There's a gummy form. I just

Speaker 4 16:41

Said it . Oh , not you said gum. I didn't know if it was like chewing

Speaker 3 16:43

Gum. Gum gummy. And then,

Speaker 4 16:44

So they should like put weed and Viagra in the gummy.

Speaker 3 16:47

They should any of these things . Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just keep the Viagra pure please. <laugh> . Don't put your dirty devil's. What do they call it? Devil's

Speaker 4 16:55

Pause . Mitts

Speaker 3 16:55

Devil's something . Horns.

Speaker 4 16:57

Okay.

Speaker 3 16:57

So, so now you have Viagra, which is available, you know, at an HEB or with a GoodRx coupon. You can get 30 tablets of the 20 milligrams for, I don't know , $11, maybe $7. Gosh . You can get, you can get 90 tablets for, you know, not too much more.

Speaker 4 17:15

Remember when it was $10 a tablet? A pill. A pill for just one

Speaker 3 17:18

Pill. Yeah. And the government would doled out. You could only get six erections a month, you know , here

Speaker 4 17:22

You go. White men . Yeah . It's covered by your insurance.

Speaker 3 17:24

Your insurance. <laugh> . I always found it funny at the VA because they , in my mind, I'm like, they only have the veterans have like three erections a month. Right . That seems , that seems pretty. And then they make 'em go back to the VA to get more. Bill

Speaker 4 17:34

Your story though about the congressman or the guy who made the laws who was like, you know, two's too few force too many erections per month. Three

Speaker 3 17:42

Sounds good. Three sounds good. You know , and that's how , that's what they decided. And so then you have , um, our preferred med or my preferred medicine, which is tadalafil . And that's Cialis. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . There's a on demand dose, which is 10 or 20 milligrams. Mm-Hmm . <affirmative> . And you have to take that four hours prior to intercourse for it to work. Okay . And then you have the daily use, which you just take every day at the same time. So getting back to this listener's question, I think most of these , uh, medications probably use Viagra or Sildenafil in them . Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> because it's easier . You're usually popping the pill, you know, this whatever you're getting, like soon before you're gonna have intercourse. And so the sildenafil is more quickly acting. Oh. Uh, there's another medication that is not generic yet called Stendra. And I think that when that becomes generic, it's going to be, it's , it's gonna take off because it has a much shorter half-life because men really just wanna pop it and go. But, but if you're using an , that's what over the counter <laugh> , if you're using an over counter gas station erection medicine Mm . Then you probably want take it like we would advise you to take Viagra, which is on an empty stomach about an hour before intercourse. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> . So an empty

Speaker 4 18:49

Stomach. How is DRA different than Viagra or Cialis?

Speaker 3 18:51

It's all just , uh, just the

Speaker 4 18:52

Half-life part .

Speaker 3 18:53

They're all, they , they last differently. Mm . They bind differently and more aggressively to this PD five enzyme. And that's how, that's how they change . I see. And, and , and they used to be another one called Var Deena fill , which I don't see anymore, but that used to be kind of the, like the go-to medicine for, for the va. So that's, a lot of veterans know , know about that medication, but the Cialis medication, similarly, for $13 you can get 95 milligram tablets. Wow. So if you're getting your medicine from hys or from one of these online pharmacy things where they're charging you a dollar or $2 a pill, you're really overpaying. You're overpaying. Just so you didn't have to go to the doctor <laugh> . Yeah. And I'm telling you that it's worth it to go to the doctor. We're here to fix you and help you and make sure you're doing the right thing. <laugh> . And, and that's okay.

Speaker 4 19:37

Quality control. It's

Speaker 3 19:39

Not really that buggy of a waste of a time. I mean, we have nice magazines, you know, you get to meet me, it's kind of fun, funny around here. Right . We'll even give you a T-shirt.

Speaker 4 19:46

I mean, and if you don't have insurance, it's really pretty inexpensive.

Speaker 3 19:48

It's pretty inexpensive. I mean, our charge to see a patient, what is it, like, 150 bucks

Speaker 4 19:52

For 150 for the first visit and then follow-ups are less than that. And then the

Speaker 3 19:55

Labs, like if, if you're really gonna get a full set of testosterone labs, it's like 50 bucks. Yeah . I mean, we're not talking about, you know, break the bank money here. Right. And especially if it's good for your health and

Speaker 4 20:05

You can get refills for like six months. Yeah . Or a year.

Speaker 3 20:07

Yeah. I'll see you next year. Yeah. You know, like, we're not gonna make it hard. Pretty . We're gonna make it easy. We're

Speaker 4 20:12

Gonna make it hard though. Yeah. Later .

Speaker 3 20:14

Yeah . Nice. Uh , <laugh> Donna, if people really wanna learn our humor or get a referral to a more appropriate urologist , uh, what number do they call

Speaker 4 20:23

You ? You can call us at (512) 238-0762. And our website, as you know, is armor men's health.com. Reach out to us if you have any questions. We'll answer them anonymously, just like this one. Our website. Again, armor men's health.com. And please check out our podcasts, wherever you listen to podcasts. You know, we got a patient from Washington the other day, Dr. Mystery from listening to the podcast. I love it. All right , well, thanks y'all for listening,

Speaker 2 20:46

And we'll see you next time. The Armor Men's Health Show is brought to you by NAU Urology Specialist. For questions or to schedule an appointment, please call 5 1 2 2 3 8 0 7 6 2 or online at armor men's health.com.