Bonus Episode: Bye, Bye Band-aids: How Functional Medicine Gets to the Root of Illness for Holistic Health

In this special bonus episode, Dr. Mistry and Donna Lee are joined by Dr. Philip Oubre, a family medicine specialist who practices functional medicine. This holistic approach to healthcare looks beyond surface symptoms for the root cause of illness in each unique individual. A typical functional medicine patient has struggled with chronic or unexplained symptoms despite trying many traditional medical treatments. Because functional medicine focuses on holistic wellness, treatments often seek to eliminate underlying inflammatory conditions through a mix of supplements, diet, exercise, and improved sleep hygiene, all tailored to your body's unique needs. If you think you've tried everything for your ongoing health problems, don't despair--listen in to learn why functional medicine is different. Visit Oubre Medical online or call 512-607-4071 today!

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:07

Welcome to the Armor Men's Health Show with Dr. Mystery and Donna Lee.

Speaker 2 0:12

Hello and welcome to the Armor Men's Health Show. This is Dr. Mystery board certified urologist, certifiable non comedian. Here was my co-host Donna Lee.

Speaker 3 0:21

That's right. I am a certified co-host. So thank you for joining

Speaker 2 0:24

Me today. She's also certifiable. I am a board certified urologist. As a men's health show. We talk about all the topics between the nipples and the knees. We have a wonderful time doing it. This show is available on many different platforms, just recently on YouTube. YouTube.

Speaker 3 0:38

Hey.

Speaker 2 0:38

We'll see how that goes. However,

Speaker 3 0:40

We're the worst<laugh>. Oh my

Speaker 2 0:41

Lord. I probably should comb my hair in the mornings. Right?

Speaker 3 0:44

We're put some clothes on something, wear some pants.

Speaker 2 0:47

I'm working from home, everybody.<laugh>. I don't wear pants anymore. This show is brought to you by Naau Urology Specialist. That's the Urology Specialty clinic that I started in 2007, which makes this our 15th year. It's right, I'm listening to this. In the future, we could have been in practice for

Speaker 3 1:02

Even longer, 30 years. This is a holistic practice where you don't have to wear pants.

Speaker 2 1:07

We ask you that you please wear pants, at least when you walk in. By holistic urology, what we really mean is we kind of take a broader look at the human being and how things like erectile dysfunction and kidney stones and prostate cancer can be affected by nutrition, by general health, by stress, by sleep. All of these things that have an impact. Now, I'm a surgeon at heart, so don't think that I'm some kind of, When

Speaker 3 1:26

You're not looking, he's gonna cut you wide open.

Speaker 2 1:28

That that's Well, I mean, you, you can't be looking

Speaker 3 1:30

<laugh><laugh> True. You're sleep. Yes. Just like a look over there,

Speaker 2 1:33

Just like a prostate. Exams are done with you looking away.<laugh>. If you have a urologist that's looking you in the eye during your prostate exam, I would be worried.

Speaker 3 1:40

Change

Speaker 2 1:40

Urologist. That's right. Change urologists. Anyway, today we have a special guest, one of my great friends from the Austin area at Dr. Phil o. Sir, thank you for coming today.

Speaker 4 1:48

Thank you for having me. Finally, after started

Speaker 2 1:50

Four years for many, many years.

Speaker 3 1:51

I've been trying this for

Speaker 2 1:52

Three years now. Let's, let's start, what's the most difficult part of you? How do you spell u<laugh>?

Speaker 4 1:57

O U B R E.

Speaker 2 1:59

And that's important because that is what you named your medical practice.

Speaker 4 2:03

Yes. That's actually a long story medical story. Yes. U Medical

Speaker 2 2:06

And you're from, uh, Baton Rouge.

Speaker 4 2:07

Correct. Louisiana, South Louisiana.

Speaker 2 2:09

Do you, do you have a famous politician like uncle?

Speaker 4 2:11

I do not. Unfortunately. We already

Speaker 2 2:12

Talked about that. Mm, we don't. Mm-hmm. It's like, it's like having that name and Baton Rouge where everybody's got the same name. Exactly.

Speaker 4 2:18

Like mystery, like Smith,

Speaker 2 2:19

Like U is like the Smith of Baton Rouge.

Speaker 3 2:22

Exactly. Like the mystery of

Speaker 4 2:23

India. They know how to pronounce it in Louisiana. Nowhere else.

Speaker 2 2:25

Now, why you're here today is because you and I have like a real kindred spirit when it comes to our approach to medicine. And you've done it a lot better than I have.

Speaker 4 2:34

I wouldn't say that you're

Speaker 2 2:35

A, but I appreciate it. You're a functional medicine specialist. I refer so many people to functional medicine, uh, over the years because what we try to do in just regular traditional medicine sometimes doesn't apply to what people need done. And so maybe you could just go through a little explanation of what a functional medicine doctor is.

Speaker 4 2:50

The briefest explanation of it is to say that whatever a human being has kind of acquired is the way I say it, is if you've acquired something over time, then it's because the body has created a defense mechanism or a protection against something that has happened. And so that's something that you feel is a migraine is potentially a side effect of a protective mechanism by your body because you ate gluten and gluten is inflammatory to you. And, and that gluten inflammation causes migraine. So what we do as functional medicine doctors is we try to find out what that thing is that you're reacting to or that your body, your immune system is reacting to and remove it. And if you remove that trigger, the symptom goes away. So, so much of traditional medicine of the diagnoses you have is really not a diagnosis. It's a, it's a protective mechanism by the body that went awry. So you've been eating gluten for 60 years and now you have migraines that, that's unusual. Why now? I don't know. They'll remove it. You're

Speaker 2 3:39

Better. So much of medicine is about trying to find out what makes everybody the same. Okay. You have high blood pressure. If we just give you this one beta blocker mm-hmm.<affirmative>, then it's gonna fix the high blood pressure in 97% of people. Right. So, so, so much of what we do is just trying to find the thing that can fix the most people when in fact, each of us as individual. Correct. We have these, these, this DNA in us that even though the genes between me and you may be virtually identical, obviously your hair genes a little bit better than mine, but, you know, virtually

Speaker 3 4:10

Tire you tire too<laugh>,

Speaker 2 4:11

But virtually identical. But there's these epigenetics, these very small things that turn certain genes on or off that make you different from me and the way that you respond to food different than the way I do. Exactly. Culturally and where you're born and all of this stuff. And so really functional medicine is about taking you as an individual and figuring out how you're different than everybody else.

Speaker 4 4:30

Exactly. That's so true. That's a great way to look at

Speaker 2 4:32

It. And so, uh, diet makes a really big part of what you do. Why don't you talk to us a little bit about how common dietary things that cause people to have medical conditions and then how you go about evaluating

Speaker 4 4:42

Them. Gosh, that's, that's a three hour talk right there. But the idea is that most of our foods in today's society is processed and we spend very little time in the kitchen. It's a fact that Americans spend more time watching cooking shows than actually cooking at all.

Speaker 3 4:54

<laugh>, that's me on<laugh>.

Speaker 2 4:56

Oh. And me with your do it yourself cabinet making. Oh boy.

Speaker 3 4:59

That's why your kitchen's broken. That's right.

Speaker 4 5:02

So the idea is, it sounds cheesy, but just to get people back to Whole Foods and stop eating processed foods, and I don't mean Whole Foods like the grocery store headquarters in Austin, Right? I mean, Whole Foods meaning the chickens that

Speaker 2 5:13

Sponsors of the Right.

Speaker 4 5:14

Exactly. Pay royalties. So yeah, getting people back to real whole foods that, that they cook themselves, they make themselves, they know where they got it from, somewhat the grocery store. They don't know where they, they got that from eating at a restaurant, eating McDonald's. All of those things are processed and, and not great ingredients. And so our body is dysfunctional from it. It just makes total sense. When you put trash in, you can't expect goodness out. You put trash in, you get trash out.

Speaker 2 5:36

Now sometimes people think of dietary things as being like, I ate something and now I'm nauseated. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, they don't necessarily think that I ate something and now my elbows have a rash on it. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. So the impact that nutrition can have on our entire body, kind of conceptually, we know that you are what you eat. Correct. But you don't really recognize that your sickness and illness can also have a big impact by what you're putting in your body.

Speaker 4 5:59

Absolutely. We're so detached from how food affects us and because just like you said, food doesn't immediately affect most people. Like obviously people that are allergic to peanuts and die, if they eat peanuts once and nearly die Right. They're never gonna eat it again. It's pretty strong detractor when you eat gluten and you're like, Oh, I'm a little bloated. Well, but it tasted delicious so I'm just gonna keep eating it. Right. That's

Speaker 3 6:19

Me. That's how I woke up this morning.<laugh>. That's why I'm shaped like a taco.

Speaker 2 6:22

Even something like lactose intolerance can take sometimes people a long time like yes. I don't know is I that I ate that, I drank that milkshake, I'm farting all over the place, but you know, it's,

Speaker 3 6:32

But it's just every time it's,

Speaker 2 6:34

It's really a victimless crime.

Speaker 3 6:36

<laugh> is it. And

Speaker 2 6:39

So, and so, uh, you mentioned bloating, which is a great topic because I think that like a lot of people that want to go into functional medicine, their kind of ideal patient is the 45 year old woman who's bloated. If you're a 45 year old woman out there and you're bloated and you don't see a functional medicine doctor, you lean to find one. Right. Because that's who's gonna fix it. That's right. It's probably not gonna be your gastroenterologist. Right. Not at all. Because it's not, it's not a question about giving you medicines. And then these people that come with constipation, you know, they get, they get a laxative. Mm-hmm. And then, then they're have diarrhea and they have to get something for the diarrhea. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. So it's almost a back and forth when they're not fixing the problem.

Speaker 3 7:12

I have a quick example. My friend who had bloating for months and months and months, she finally went to a gastroenterologist cuz she wouldn't go to the functional medicine doctor. And they told her to take Bino

Speaker 4 7:21

<laugh>

Speaker 3 7:22

And she was pregnant. She looked pregnant for like almost a whole year of her life. And

Speaker 4 7:25

She, Bino actually doesn't work for bloating does unless you ate beans.

Speaker 3 7:28

But that's what the doctor said.

Speaker 4 7:29

<laugh>. That's why it's called Bino.

Speaker 3 7:31

Doesn't

Speaker 2 7:31

The Bino. And so, um, when, when you're going through an evaluation, it, do you do, uh, tests or are you doing predominantly just like changes in diet and then seeing what happens?

Speaker 4 7:42

Yeah, so a combination of both. Our first intake visit is 90 minutes with preferably no data. I've, I've learned over time that the more data you have coming in, and I think you can agree, we're we're, we're physicians, we're taught to look at the lab. So it's almost like when they bring too much labs, at first I usually just put it off to the side and say, I I want to hear this story because the story of how you developed what you developed is actually the key to this. So sure. Migraines is on your list, but if I focus on migraines, when your story actually started with bloating in your twenties, then I, I got distracted because the first thing is the usually the most important and the others were defense mechanisms against the first thing. Um, so that's a common misconception is people rely too much on data. Now's functional medicine doctors, we can spend thousands of dollars at the lab, but ultimately if you're eating trash, we can take the best supplements in the world. You're still eating trash.

Speaker 2 8:29

Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, I think that's really important to, to, to, to recount. And, and not all diseases are, um, like, like obvious candidates for functional medicine doctors. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. So maybe you could talk about, so we talked about bloating, we talked about migraines, but even like behavioral things in children can have a big impact from functional medicine, right?

Speaker 4 8:48

Absolutely. I mean, between the a d d and the, the defiance disorders and even autism, we've seen amazing recoveries from children and sure, they may not be normal, they may not be the next Einstein, but to the, to be able to minimize the behavior, disturbances them, cooperate more in school, it just makes everyone happier when, when the kids are happier and doing better. Right. So there's a lot of, of inflammatory things. And the, the part that always surprises me and and functional medicine is how you, why like why a child was born with something that the parents didn't really have or had milder versions. And what we're noticing over time is our children are sicker and there are more of them. And the reason why is because we pass on our inflammation, we pass on our toxic burden to our next generation. So these children are, are being born to inflammatory women and passing on that inflammation is that they're born with the inflammation, they're born with genetic epigenetic, um, wrongs. And that's why they're expressing their symptoms much differently. The parent might have psoriasis but the child is born with, with, um, autism or a d d or something like that. Totally different, Right? Your skin in your brain totally different, but they're both from, uh, inflammation and that's what's and

Speaker 2 9:51

Some genetic component there. Exactly. And if, uh, are your listeners, if you can't tell, even though Dr. U is a primary care physician, he's gonna sound a lot different than your traditional primary care physician. And that's because there's special education that goes into functional medicine and a special approach. And we're gonna be right back. But before we leave for this little break, can you tell us your, your website and your phone number?

Speaker 4 10:13

So our website's easy. If you can spell my name, it's uber medical.com.<laugh>, O U B R e medical forget the R com. That's right. The re makes us fancy<laugh>. And uh, our phone number's(512) 829-1104.

Speaker 2 10:26

Well, thank you so much and we'll be right back. This is Dr. Mystery, your host joined by my co-host Donnel Lee. That's

Speaker 3 10:32

Right. Hello everybody. Welcome back to the show. We are very excited to continue this amazing conversation where we have a fancy doctor with an R and an E in his name.

Speaker 2 10:39

I'm a board certified urologist. This is a men's health show. The show is brought to you by N aau Urology Specialist Urology Specialty Clinic that I started in 2007. Again,

Speaker 4 10:48

You're old.

Speaker 2 10:49

That is

Speaker 4 10:50

Nice. Feel so young right now.

Speaker 2 10:51

That is not nice. Everybody. Sorry

Speaker 3 10:53

We're a funny yesterday. That's

Speaker 2 10:54

Awesome. We do not thought we did<laugh>. Anyway, we're joined again by Dr,

Speaker 3 10:58

Not coming back, that's

Speaker 2 10:59

For sure. Philip u o u b r e. He is the founder of U Medical, a functional medical Practice. And in the last segment we discussed a little bit about how a functional medicine doctor's education is a little different. So why don't you just briefly go over kind of what your education was like? Painful

Speaker 4 11:16

Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. So I'm a

Speaker 2 11:18

Tradition LSU graduate program.

Speaker 4 11:20

Yeah. I'm traditional med student residency just like everyone else. And then getting out of residency, I started, or I didn't start, I went to work for a primary care practice and, um, slowly started to learn about function medicine. I wouldn't even call it function medicine, just say I was replacing vitamin D and I thought I was pretty fancy at that point. And then I got even fancier when I was recommending fish oil. Then things got even more complicated when I saw homocysteine levels and started recommending be complex. Then I noticed my own labs were atrocious and started myself on all those things. And as I started to do those things, I kind of collected patients. What's interesting is in medicine, you, you get what you put out there. So I started putting this stuff out there and people started migrating towards it and then they would tell me what they were doing. As I kind of pulled on the thread of the sweater of, of what all is possible in functional medicine. I started going to conferences and things. So ultimately majority of my functional medicine knowledge has nothing to do with my MD degree and it cost a whole lot more to get the MD degree. And so went to conferences and things, but unfortunately in functional medicine there's so much out there that a lot of it was just based on trial and error with my patients of experimenting with things, reading research and going to conferences and mixing it all together. So our education, functional medicine is, is completely scattered and not simplified or strategic. So that's one of my missions in this world, not only to create my practice and and treat patients, but also to teach other providers, Hey, let me give you this shortcut. You can figure out your own way however you want to, but let me give you the shortcut to get there and give you kinda the basics. And the foundation, they're not functional medicine, as you said earlier is, is very unique and bio individualized, but there's some basics that every person needs to do. And as they're doing those things, they become unique as their body reacts to those things to remove gluten from one person. And they are like, Ah, lalu, I'm a new person, you're removed from another. And they're like, Yeah, that didn't do

Speaker 2 12:54

Anything. I think that's a really important part of, of the approach is this idea that what I tried first doesn't work. Let's keep trying and keep investigating. Correct. But unfortunately in today's medicine, that takes time. Correct. It takes commitment. Correct. And it's not for everybody. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, if you're looking for a quick fix, if you're looking to like, and people do that all the time. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, some people come to me for a erectile dysfunction and want me to give them a pill. Mm-hmm.<affirmative> and guess what? They're not interested in me talking about doppler studies and mm-hmm.<affirmative> and supplements and exercise, but then the one in 10, I would say one in 10 or one in eight. That's what those guys, those guys are really committed. You know what, actually one in enough, I don't want to take a pill, give me another option. And that's the kind of person that you're speaking. Exactly. Uh, because it requires trial and error. It does require cash because a lot of times things aren't covered by insurance. Correct. Even though the labs are often, most of the time usually. And that time and commitment to make you better. So, so I think that people that have hard to kind of get their arms around diagnosis are the best ones for functional

Speaker 4 13:48

Medicine. Exactly. I mean, that, that's our typical patient and we're trying to get less of those typical patients. Our typical patient is seeing 10 doctors before seeing us and has been, um, depleted both energy wise and cash wise because they've, they've recommended all kinds of studies and treatments and things that didn't get anywhere. And then here we are recommending food to start with and, and so that, that's our typical patient. But so many other people, as you mentioned earlier, just high cholesterol, diabetes, high blood pressure, those are things that are fairly easy to treat and reverse. And they're usually almost always lifestyle factors. The the problem is those things are so hidden. Erectile dysfunction, you know, immediately when it happens. Right.<laugh>. Right. It's not a surprise.

Speaker 2 14:23

What's that?

Speaker 4 14:23

Wait, wait a minute. Why am I walking that way?<laugh>? That,

Speaker 2 14:26

That doesn't look right.<laugh>

Speaker 4 14:28

So high blood pressure, high cholesterol, they're completely asymptomatic. They don't have any symptoms until you have your first heart attack. Heart attack. Right. But no one gets any glory for preventing that heart attack. You get a lot more glory from getting erection again, but there's no glory in reverse in cholesterol and diabetes and not having a heart attack.

Speaker 2 14:43

That's why I wear a crown. It's for all the glory I guess. So. So when it comes to a person who's going through a more complicated kind of of medical conditions, oftentimes we'll use supplements to kind of help with that. Now you mentioned vitamin D. Mm-hmm.<affirmative>, you mentioned fish oil. We use a lot of, uh, artery building kind of things. Not every supplement is right for every person because some guys will tell you that something makes them feel great. Not, not, not otherwise. And just like some medicines work for some and not others, are there advanced tests that you can do to kind of understand what supplements people need or, or benefit from?

Speaker 4 15:13

Absolutely. And a common thing in functional medicine is especially traditional docs, we, we like a pill for every ill, right? You've got heartburn, there's your pill, you've got erectile dysfunction, there's your pill. So then they get into functional medicine, they do the same thing. Oh, you've got heartburn. Well, instead of this pill, I'm gonna give you this p this supplement for that. So what we try to do, especially in someone that's more advanced functional medicine, like I like to consider myself more advanced functional medicine, we really try to figure out the root cause and focus on that first thing. And that first thing has so many downstream benefits. You've got migraines, okay, coq 10 might work, but hey, if we reverse your gluten sensitivity and your, your gut dysbiosis, your your yeast overgrowth, the migraines go away too. So I like to tell people that they're ultimately gonna need maybe a hundred different supplements to get better ultimately, but right now we're just gonna do these 10 because these 10 will affect the future and you may not need those other 90 if we can fix the root cause. And you, you, you fix it with your nutrition. So too many functional medicine doctors do symptomatic functional medicine is what I call it. You're just a pill for every symptom you have. You're

Speaker 2 16:11

Just kind of replacing traditional pills with like something that isn't covered by insurance. Correct, Correct. And

Speaker 4 16:16

Make money

Speaker 2 16:17

Off. Correct. And that makes people tired, uh, you know, uh, very quickly and maybe distrustful of, of what a functional medicine kind of approach can be.

Speaker 4 16:25

And they frequently end up on like 50 supplements and it's just unbelievable how much, how many pills. And many times patients come to us and we actually take them off of supplements. Like, you're on too many. And then like you referenced earlier, I, I don't think I actually answered the question. There are fancy tests that we can do now to evaluate those things, but a lot of times in the beginning with our patients, I tell'em not to do the test because there's so many things you need to fix just with your nutrition, lifestyle, gut microbiome, absorption and all that. So if you're not absorbing your nutrients, then why are we even testing it? Like, okay, yes, we could replace every one of those vitamins with a supplement that I sell on the shelf, but how about we fix your absorption and your digestion and then you eat real food? And that itself is a supplement. Like imagine that getting zinc from nuts instead of zinc from a pill.

Speaker 2 17:05

We love nuts. You do

Speaker 4 17:07

Love nuts. I love

Speaker 2 17:07

Nuts. So when it comes to, um, things you, you've discussed diet and supplements mm-hmm.<affirmative>. Now I wanna talk about stress and sleep. Ooh. Now for, for me,

Speaker 4 17:16

Just a personal question. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 17:17

<affirmative>, I think that stress, right? I mean, physicians asking physicians about stress and sleep is like the worst, you know, thing, right? Like, we're, we're terrible at this. He's

Speaker 4 17:25

Asking for a friend.

Speaker 2 17:26

But over time, you know, I have found that stress levels and sleep levels greatly impact something like male fertility. Absolutely. And for, and, and how they deal with surgical complications and pain. Absolutely. Testosterone. And, and do, do you have things that you have found that work in your clinic to either measure or to, uh, monitor to improve sleep and and stress?

Speaker 4 17:49

Yeah. So that, that's a another hour long podcast. But the adrenal glands are ultimately one of the things that are responsible for so much hormone balance. It doesn't matter whether it's your insulin, it doesn't matter whether it's your testosterone, your estrogen, your fertility, whatever it may be. Your adrenal glands make the stress hormone. And in America, we're constantly stressed. Right. We wake up stressed. We, we, we work stressed, we go home stressed. And so those adrenal glands are constantly pumping out too much cortisol all day long. And then you try to go to sleep.

Speaker 2 18:15

And that cortisol and that cortisol makes you fat. Yes. And the cortisol is an inflammatory agent. Yes. And the cortisol encourages diabetes. Yeah. It's

Speaker 4 18:22

Everything. Cortisol,

Speaker 2 18:23

Nothing bad, everything bad, nothing.

Speaker 3 18:24

Wow. This is depressing. Yeah.

Speaker 4 18:27

<laugh>,

Speaker 3 18:28

You go eat a taco right

Speaker 2 18:29

There. Right. That's why you only work three days a weekly because you were getting so stressed out, you started getting things that autoimmune

Speaker 3 18:35

Things happen to me.

Speaker 4 18:35

Right. Uh, you need to see a function medicine doctor<laugh>. Right? I know a good one.

Speaker 2 18:40

<laugh>.

Speaker 3 18:41

There's an r and e in his name. It's fancy. Great.

Speaker 4 18:44

So the thing about the adrenal glands is too many people focus on, uh, the supplements for adrenal lenss and not so much the lifestyle that created the stressors. No

Speaker 2 18:52

Kidding. That's

Speaker 4 18:52

Right. Right. So it's, it's

Speaker 3 18:54

Hard to three days a week

Speaker 4 18:54

Mm-hmm.<affirmative>. So it's, it's no different than functional medicine changing someone's food plan. Like you can't fix your gut if you're eating trash. Well, you can't fix your adrenals with any supplement unless you're actually changing what you're doing. I've learned one of the quickest ways to change the adrenal glands, even if you don't change your lifestyle and what you're doing is, it sounds totally hocus-pocus. I'm a real doctor. Everyone. Okay, this sounds totally hocus-pocus, but gratefulness, literally gratefulness, doing your same day, same routine, driving to work, driving, going to get the kids, whatever it may be. Just having the spirit of I'm grateful for what I have. Not all the things that I don't have yet, and the things that I'm working for. Like, I am grateful right now for this sky, for this room, for these wonderful people around me. Gratefulness is the fastest way. Like I just got chills and just relaxed a little bit, seeing how grateful I am for good friends. Aw. And that sounds totally hocus-pocus. There are real supplements that help adrenal glands. That's the thing. But being grateful reduces your adrenal gland output.

Speaker 3 19:45

I start every morning with prayers of gratitude. I go outside and stretch and pray, and I do my grateful things for everybody

Speaker 2 19:51

Here. So, and the and the sage around the new

Speaker 3 19:53

Houses, my autoimmune thing went away.

Speaker 4 19:55

Went

Speaker 2 19:55

Away. Look at, that's right. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 19:56

<affirmative>. Great gratitude.

Speaker 2 19:58

Well, I cannot thank you enough for coming and sharing kind of your approach to medicine for having about functional medicine. I mean, um, you're just such a, such an amazingly committed doctor to what you do. And we really appreciate all the great care you take of our patients. And so those of our listeners out there that want to experience you in the, in the first hand, uh, how do they get ahold of you? What's your website and phone number?

Speaker 4 20:20

Uh, so my website's u Medical, which is spelled O U B R E medical.com. And then our phone number's(512) 829-1104. That's

Speaker 3 20:28

Right. If you have questions for Dr. U, you can send them to us@armormenhealth.com or call us at(512) 238-0762. And you can check out these podcasts wherever you listen to free podcasts. Thank you guys so much for being here

Speaker 1 20:40

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